Maybe they’re family; continued from May 8 post.

Below is one of my favorite mystery photos. Of the four people pictured, I know just one. The man on the left is my grandfather, Tobias Hunter. I’ve posted this picture many times before, on Facebook pages and any website I can find that might take a crack at it. 

T Hunter with car, Hong Kong about 1933

I originally posted it on Facebook Groups; “Hong Kong Past-The Early Years” and “Family and Friends from Shanghai and Hong Kong” and probably a couple of others. I began this particular search in 2018 in the hopes of identifying the people besides my grandfather who is on the far left in the picture.

We established the year and make of the car as a 1933 Austin A10 Touring Sedan and and that the location was likely Hong Kong. This we derived from the terrain shown as well as the Hong Kong Auto Club badge on the front bumper bar of the car. The next quest was to find the building, but it seemed to no longer exist. Many members guessed and I checked out every possibility, all to no avail, until about a week ago. A group member Donald Gudgin posted a couple of photos that were taken when he was serving in the Royal Engineers, #56 Field Squadron, Tai Lam back in 1956. This base was located near Ting Kau Beach along Castle Peak Road, New Territories. He sent me a crop from a Google Earth screen shot and amazingly, the location matched one that I had “pinned” several years ago, marking two properties associated with my grandfather. They were located at 333 and 335 Castle Peak Road.

This is what he wrote:

When I saw your photo I thought that looks like our camp building. I was there in 1956 Tai Lam Camp 56 Field Squadron RE Castle Peak Rd. The first photo is from inside the second floor. The second photo taken from the other direction. The third taken the same way as yours. ( Sorry they are not very clear ) All I know about the building was taken over by the Japanese in 1941 and then by the British army in 1945. We moved out in 1957. It was then demolished. I may be wrong but the building looks very similar.

Tai Lam house on army base 1956

The photo below shows the view from the upper floor balcony with the distinctive “X” patterned railings

View from balcony showing the “X” pattern railing

This is my capture from Google Earth showing where the two properties that my grandfather had an interest in, were located.

Google Earth capture showing location of 333 Castle Peak Road

So, a connection is there and now my search for the identity of the other people becomes more centered. I will attempt to delve into the property records next to see if anything shows up.

Below is a Lot map from the Hong Kong Land Registry that shows the location and present parcel numbers for the property in question on Castle Peak Road. The overall section is DD399 and the piece numbered 333 is now represented by DD399 177. The piece that was at one point #335 is now DD399 437. The plot map is pictured below.

Castle Peak Road Lot Plan

I’ve done a search under these numbers and neither produces a connection to my grandfather however there’s a possibility that there were multiple subsections of these lots. The letter below is one of several between my grandfather and B J Wong of P C Woo & Co in 1949 that establishes his relationship to the property.

Letter from T Hunter to B J Wong, 1949

A coincidence I just noticed is the pattern of the railing is three bars then three Xs and then three bars again ( III-XXX-III ) 3-30-3 The address of the house was “333” Castle Peak Road! I realize that the true Roman numerals would be CCCXXXIII but that wouldn’t look as good.

Crop of railing showing IIIXXXIII pattern

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Artindale

When my family moved to Shanghai after WW1, and my grandfather became a partner in Geddes Trading, the accountant for the firm was Fred Artindale. His family roots were Eurasian, having a European grandfather and an Asian grandmother. It’s possible our families knew each other during their time in Hong Kong. As far as I know Fred was born in Shanghai but his roots may have been in Hong Kong or even Macau. He and his wife Bertha, along with their daughters were all interned in Shanghai during WW2 as were Fred’s parents.

A few years ago I made the acquaintance of Desmond Power who was a Tientsin boy and wrote several books on his life and times in China. “Little Foreign Devil” was one of them. He was in his early 90s then and sadly has passed away since but on the few occasions where we were able to get together, he was very helpful. As he had been interned in Shanghai, I was eager to learn if he might have known any of my family, so I enlarged and printed some old photos to show him. The first photo I showed him was a group with my family and the Artindales, taken in the 1950s in California. Right away he said “I know him! That’s Fred Artindale. We played in a band together at Lunghwa Camp!” Desmond was fluent in Chinese and consulted on Greg Leck’s book, “Captives of Empire” which must be the definitive “Historical record” of the Japanese prisoner camps in China. Desmond also left me many books, and the most useful, “Desk Hong for Shanghai, 1937” This book is a treasure!

Fred Artindale at his shop in SLO

Fred and his family also ended up in California after the war. He was a maker and repairer of violins and other stringed instruments. He had his business in downtown Los Angeles and I remember as a child riding the streetcar and going to his shop. It was upstairs in one of the older buildings and the door had frosted glass with his name on it, like in the TV detective shows. In the mid 1950s Fred moved his family up to San Luis Obispo, where he continued his craft as well as performing with the local orchestras.

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More about faith

Since my previous post on the subject, I’ve done more research and by chance received some information from a fellow poster from another site. One of my original questions involved “how and when my family became involved in “Christian Science” My initial thinking was that it took place in Hong Kong about the time my mother was born ( 1911 ) as the church had established itself there around that date. One thought was that my grandparents had turned away from whatever religion they adhered to ( if any ) because they had lost their first born daughter ( Phoebe Mildred, 1910 ) at just a week old, and that possibly the church they belonged to didn’t show ample support during what must have been a very difficult period. Well, it seem this was not the case.

My grandfather married at St Andrew’s Church, at Kowloon in 1909 and his brother George also married at an Anglican Church, in Leeds England the same year. Their sister May Hunter, married at St John’s Cathedral, Hong Kong, in 1903. My mother, Iris Maud ( bn 1911 ) and her sister Nora Eileen ( bn 1912 ) were both born in Kowloon and baptised at St Andrew’s Church. My grandfather moved his family to Shanghai about 1919 to partner in Geddes Trading with his brother in law Thomas Cock ( his sister’s husband ) So, up until the Shanghai move, I’m assuming CS was not the religious affiliation of any of them.

My mother and her sister were sent to school in Bournemouth England in 1924 and remained there until 1928. Their aunt May and their four cousins, Edna, Alwyn, Inez, and Eunice were already in England. The younger two girls also attended Bournemouth School for Girls and Alwyn went to the boys school there. As to religion, I recalled the following entry in their diary which was made in their final year:

March 28, 1928 Wednesday (88-278) First Quarter 11.54 a.m. This morning Iris made a Dundee cake for daddy. We hope it will not be stale by Tuesday. Auntie May and Uncle Tom said goodbye to us at about 2 o’clock and brought us a parcel from Auntie Joe. There were two lovely and embroidered petticoats for us. We then went to our last confirmation class and Mr. Moore gave us each a book called “Communion and Offering”

So it seems reasonable to assume that CS has not taken hold of our family at this juncture. School ended, and in early September, they set said aboard the SS Saarbrucken from Rotterdam to Shanghai, arriving at noon on October 27th, 1928.

Almost exactly three years later, on October 10th, 1931, my mother married Tom Beesley at the Holy Trinity Cathedral in Shanghai. There is no sign of CS on either side at this point.

By the time I was born in 1945, we were CS so the window of opportunity opened prior to that. One possibility is during the war years and my grandfather’s internment in Shanghai, but my mother and her sister were in the USA from 1941 on, so the window opening gets narrower yet….1931-1941? I must now go back through old letters to see if there is any mention of CS among local family members in the US or UK.

*As a side note to all this, Alwyn Leland Jr, the grandson of May and Tom Cock, is quite a devout Catholic.

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The Endicott Connection

About five years ago I got a message through Ancestry.com from a member known as “Heatherbelle” who was working on the family trees of some of the prominent Hong Kong families of the 19th century. She asked if I had any relationship to the Endicott family from Danvers, Massachusetts. At the time I had no knowledge of any such connections and I replied as such.

We did however exchange invitations to our respective family trees so we both had access and I spent quite some time looking at her Hong Kong Families tree. It’s large and covers quite a number of families including Ho, and Li, as well as many Eurasian off-shoots. As I was looking for my own family, I didn’t spend much time looking at the Endicott side. While there were quite a few living and doing business in Hong Kong and Shanghai, the family seemed to mainly from the USA and their roots were there.

About this time I’d come across a letter that mentioned an inheritance that was due to be paid to my mother and her sister back in 1939. The money was from the sale of a property in Hong Kong, that had been owned by a “Kot Choy” The address was 4 Moreton Terrace, Hong Kong. I mentioned this to Heatherbelle and she told me I could check with the Hong Kong Land Registry and they would likely still have the file. As this semed well above my pay grade, I asked if she could walk me through the process. So, one evening we connected through Skype and she showed me how to access the records. There was a fee to be paid to the HK Registry which I paid with my card on-line. The file came up and I was able to view and download it. Her help was instrumental in my learning the identity of “Kot Choy” but I’ll leave that for the moment.

So, back to the Endicotts. As is my habit, I often go back over documents that I’ve studied many times before, in hope of finding something I’d missed. I happened to be looking at old ship’s passenger lists and I found on showing my mother’s uncle, Tom Cock, on a passage from China to the UK via the USA in 1920. He planned a stop to visit his sister as shown on line 1, row 19, “Mary Endicott” The passenger list is pictured below. The visit looks like it may have been scrubbed, but the intent and name is recorded.

Thomas Cock passenger list SS Adriatic 1920

Then in May of 1936, a similar passage was made by Thomas Cock’s son Alwyn Leyland ( he had changed his name by then ) from Shanghai to the UK aboard the SS President Hoover via the USA. On the passenger manifest, he shows a planned stopover in Philadelphia to visit his cousin, H.B. Endicott ( Henry Bridges Endicott ) see Line 1, Row 23. This is the same address as listed on his father’s visit 16 years earlier. As can be seen, the addresses are the same.

Alwyn ( Cock ) Leyland Pass List SS President Hoover 1936

It turns out this is only the tip of the Endicott iceberg. I’m uncovering ever more interesting links between this family and not only the Cocks, but possibly my own Hunter side as well. I will elaborate on this in future posts as new information is coming in almost every day now.

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Marriages in Shanghai, 1931-1936

Below is a link to a one of my friend Katya Knyazeva’s posts. The marriages are listed about 3/4s of the way down the page but there are many other useful items along the way. Anyone who has an interest in Art Deco architecture and the historical aspects of many of Shanghai’s iconic old buildings, Katya is a real expert. She has helped me countless times, often uncovering the tiniest details that one would never know to look for. She’s also fluent with the Russian emigres history and gives talks on line as well as conducting historical walking tours in Shanghai ( Covid not withstanding! ) I posted this link to marriages as my mother and her bother-in-law are both listed ( Beesley )

https://avezink.livejournal.com/tag/1920s

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Kot Choy Properties Correction

On April 26th I posted about the properties held by Kot Choy in the mid-levels of Hong Kong in the area known as SoHo ( south of Hollywood Road ) The map shows the area with two Kot Choy property sections highlighted in yellow. One was IL 116 which was at Hollywood Road and the other and the other IL 119 on Shelley Street near Staunton. At this point I had mistakenly figured that the family address of 11 Shelley Street was close to Hollywood Road and I assumed it was in IL 114. I’ve now discovered that 11 Shelley was actually just south of Staunton so would have been in the IL 119 section and therefore a Kot Choy property as shown on the HK Land Registry.

Hong Kong map showing Kot Choy property locations

The photo below is from a posting today on Facebook that shows Staunton’s Bar with the view looking south up the hill on Shelley Street. The Peak Cafe is at 11 Shelley. When my family lived at 11 Shelley Street I believe it was quite different, probably some sort of terraced houses or boarding house/commercial buildings. What exists there today was probably built after WW2, probably in the mid 1950s.

Staunton’s Bar with Peak Cafe uphill behind on the same side of Shelley

I’ve added a Google map of the area as it is today which clearly shows the locations of these two establishments as well as the street numbering.

Google map of Hong Kong’s SoHo district

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An Improbable Discovery

Most everyone who searches on-line has used FamilySearch.org. It’s free and has lots of information but most of us never use some of the lesser known features, like the Card File. Yesterday while poking around I came across a section and a film with a little over 6000 pages. I never expected to find anything but I thought I’d have a look. I began at page 1 and clicked forward about 50 pages. Patience is really not my strongest trait. so I added entered 150, then 400 etc. I started to see alphabetical pattern but nothing so I skipped ahead to “H” looking for my Hunter family. Nothing! Moving on I jumped to the 1000s then 2000s, and noticed street names and I was at “Stanley St” so, I backed up looking for my “Shelley Street” and bingo! There were cards for even numbers and cards for odd numbered addresses. The years were a bit too early for me ( I need 1899 on ) but in the upper right corner of each card was a lot number. Using these I could cross-reference the addresses to a map I had from Gwulo.

Hong Kong Rate Payers listing

My family had leases in sections of IL 116 and IL 119 and they also maintained a residence at 11 Shelley Street, which during this period was apparently home the Parsee Church and Clubhouse. Some of the lot numbers did not exist yet and came into use later as larger lots were sectioned into smaller ones. The Club Lusitano was on IL 125 from what I can tell although the lot number isn’t shown on the map I have.

Directory listing for Shelley Street

So, the point of this post is this. When you come across these large and impossible looking databases, do give it a try as there’s often information there that’s really quite easy to find. One I noticed that there was an order to it all, either by number of alphabetical it was not difficult to navigate back and forth to find the exact spot. As can be seen in the picture below, there are other databases o that same film, will and the st Michael’s Cemetery ( there’s a separate catalog file for China Cemeteries that is searchable by name and it’s also on Family Search ) I hope this will eventually be of use to some readers

Family Search catalog page
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 A Conversation with Rev Guy Shea

This is an excerpt from a conversation that was recorded in 1997 between a friend, of mine who is a Eurasian performing artist, and her friend Rev Guy Shea in London. I’ve corresponded with her several times and while it has never been validated, the names and dates do coincide. Another chip in the shell that hides the pearl?

V: Do you know anything about my granny’s adoptive mother? I think she was called Anne Hunter. Is that correct?

G: I don’t know what her name was, but I do know something about her.

V: I do have a photo of a gravestone. She died in 1937. (this might have been her daughter by marriage with Mr Hunter)

G: As late as that! She was a Eurasian woman, and she had a proper Chinese name, but I can’t think of it now. She made a living by buying young girls, and bringing them up.

V: Like courtesans?

G: No! They were not courtesans, they were adopted, brought up and then married off for a daaih lai see – big money packet. That’s why your mother had so many so-called ‘Aunties’!

G: You see, in Hong Kong’s ‘Kow See Tow’ it was known to the women concerned that this was not a permanent liaison.

V: …but that they would be financially catered for at least to the end of their lives?

G: Not necessarily. They were catered for while the man was there, and some were catered for later, some were not. And very often what they did was find somebody else.

My friend is part of a family with long-time connections to Hong Kong. Their own history is well documented and there are other instances of parallels between the Eurasian families of the era. Names keep cropping up and passing by like ships at sea; just not quite close enough to recognize the passengers. There’s more on this subject to come.

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A questions of faith….

What is my family’s faith?

This is a subject that may be better left alone, but alas, that’s never been my style. I’m just too inquisitive by nature so let me begin back in early 1800s England. My sources are as secure as one can get, with documentation, written items from newspapers, the testimony of living relatives and the help of a professional genealogist. 

I’ll start with my great, great grandfather, John Hunter as that is where my story begins ( at least for the purpose of this entry )

John Hunter was a Quaker, a member of the Friends at Barrow Wife, Height, Yorkshire.

Friends Meeting House at Barrow-Wife

The tree actually goes back further, to his father James and his father, another John, but it gets far too repetitive. I believe James Hunter actually resided at the meeting house pictured above. So, for argument’s sake, we had at least three generations of Quakers, the fourth being my great grandfather William Leyland Hunter, hereinafter called “WLH” and the gentleman responsible for our Asian links.

I’ll assume for now that WLH was also a Quaker, or at the very least a Non-conformist.

So in 1865 WLH sets sail for China and in the bustling city of Foochow, with 600,000 Chinese and about 100 Europeans, he begins his new life.

Short version; the next 15 to 20 years fly by. WLH takes a friend, has 4 children, returns to England, marries Ellen Johnston, has two more children and dies! All this is accomplished before he turns fifty.

The next sign of faith is the marriage of May Hunter, the youngest  of the China born children, which takes place at St John’s Cathedral in Hong Kong, Mar 15, 1903. St John’s is Anglican.

The next to marry was George Hunter, who married at Wortley, Leeds, at St John the Evangelist, Jan 11 1909. This is also Anglican

The next to marry was my grandfather, 6 years later at St Andrews Church, Kowloon, Apr 15, 1909. St Andrews in Anglican

The remaining son, James Hunter, I assume was also Anglican, however there is no record of his birth or marriage. He did however marry a Catholic, and was baptized as a Catholic himself at age 37, on Dec 22, 1911. James and his wife Emma had a daughter, Ellen, born in 1899 who was raised a Catholic. James was buried in the non-Catholic cemetery at Happy Valley and his wife and daughter are both interred at St Michael’s Catholic Cemetery, in Hong Kong.

Then a change of faith took place! Around 1911 grandfather joined the Christian Science Church. It seems that CS arrived in Hong Kong about the time my mother was born. So why the switch? My grandfather and grandmother had lost a daughter in 1910, and another in 1913. Did their church not supply the comfort they needed during this troubled time? What or who influenced the change?

So my whole life, the family as I knew it, was Christian Scientist, and good ones at that. As a youngster I was taught CS and I went to Sunday school at local CS churches. My grandfather, my mother and her sister all practiced the religion and were firmly ensconced in it’s doctrine. Over my first twenty years I never questioned their beliefs, although by the time I married and had a family of my own, I’d long given up on formal religions. Only since looking into the history of my family, have I come to wonder about the whys and wherefores of faith. 

Throughout all this shuffling of religious affiliations it’s easy to forget the mysterious Anne Hunter alias Kot Choy. She was a Catholic. The family residence at 11 Shelley Street, Hong Kong was hers home and on the land registry as such from the late 1800s. She lived there always from what is known. Her son James and his wife also lived there. Their daughter Emma lived there. All of them died there. I would think they were all Catholic with the possible exception of James, but even he eventually converted, possibly only for the sake of household accord.

So in 1903 after her marriage to Tom Cock, May moved north to Shanghai. Her brothers George and Tobias moved to Kowloon and the eldest, James stayed at the family home on Shelley Street. After WW1, my grandfather moved his family again, joining his brother in law in Shanghai. Each had their own religious affiliations. 

Recently I’ve wondered more about the Christian Science part. It seemed to spark to life in the 1800s, blazed for a century and was popular and well viewed. Their newspaper, the Christian Science Monitor was well respected as an unbiased source of reporting. Today, CS has fallen from grace and many of it’s imposing churches are now being demolished. I’m sure it’s  be partly due to being mistakenly confused with Scientology and other cult-like followings. In any respect, CS numbers have definitely diminished. 

Follow the money!  It seems that way back in the day, the CS Church had a strong core following of well to do business people. Banking, insurance and shipping companies executives; mechanical and electrical engineering firms owners, all had a firm footing in this new church. Was CS a religion that brought social and economic advantages to it’s members? Was that it’s raison d’etre?

 

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